After inheriting her grandmother's collection of antiques, Dolores has maintained an interest in the care and sale of vintage items.
Why do people collect plates? Let's face it, most of us do in one way or another. We use plates every day, for simple family meals, or for special occasions, and holidays. But some of us have a few more plates than necessary or practical.
The true allure of collecting dishware is that some people just love it. We love the design, the color, or the pattern. Old plates have a secret history, a silent backstory of conversations over tea; plates hauled across oceans, or bought when a family moved up the socioeconomic ladder and were suddenly able to afford pretty instead of merely useful.
We've picked up dishware at flea markets or yard sales, eyes caught by the simple beauty of an every day article made remarkable by color or shape.
Sure, some folks purchased collector plates from, say, the Franklin Mint or other sources that once presented plates as an investment. Sadly, for those folks, the "investment" did not hold its value. Few of these types of plates hold any value at all unless you own the complete set.
The History of Porcelain
While pottery is a very old craft, fine porcelain was first produced in China sometime between 960 - 1127 CE (AD). The discovery of kaolin clay made it possible to fire dishware at high temperatures (2200 - 2600 degrees Fahrenheit) creating a brilliant white product.
When Marco Polo returned from the Far East in 1295, he brought ceramic dishes he called "porcella," comparing them to delicate sea shells. The word "porcelain" is derived from "porcella." Eventually, dishes were called "china" based on the country of origin.
Europeans embraced the beautiful dishes with cobalt blue decorations against a bright, white background. Only royalty and the very wealthy could afford fine china. The pagodas, dragons, storks, peonies, lotus flowers, and chrysanthemums of old Chinese porcelain designs remain popular to this day.
Tin-glazed earthenware created in Italy during the Renaissance also became popular. Dark earthenware pottery covered with a tin glaze created a dazzling white surface. (Delftware and Majolica were originally tin-glazed earthenware)
By the 17th century, Chinese porcelain poured into Europe and people began collecting colorful patterns and blue on white dishware with a sort of mania. But Europeans had not been able to reproduce the formula to create their own porcelain.
18th Century European Porcelain
It wasn't until the early 18th century that Europe was able to make true porcelain. In 1709, the process for the creation of hard paste pocelain was discovered in Germany. Augustus the Strong founded Meissen in 1710, creating luxury china with sophisticated patterns. Old Meissen is highly collectible today, very expensive, and often identified as museum pieces.
King Louis XV of France took a great interest in the production of porcelain. In 1738, he founded a factory at Chateau de Vincennes, then moved production to Sevres in 1758, He presented his soft-paste porcelain at annual sales that he held in his private dining room. Nobles curried the favor of the king by buying up his china.
When kaolinite, the mineral in clay that is a major component of porcelain, was discovered in Limoges, France, the area became synonymous with elegant French tableware.
Wedgewood was founded in the 18th century by Josiah Wedgewood. A genius at marketing, Wedgewood offered his product in catalogs. He set up a London showroom, solicited endorsements from high-society customers, and commissioned designs from prominent artists.
After an apprenticeship, Josiah Spode opened a factory in Stoke-on-Trent in 1770. He refined the process for the production of transfer printing of engraved designs and improved the formula for fine bone china. In 1833, the Spode heirs sold the business to William Taylor Copeland and Thomas Garrett, who renamed the company Copeland and Garrett. But the name Spode lives on.
How to Identify and Value Dishware
Perfectly lovely vintage style dishes can be found quite cheaply at flea markets, thrift stores, and yard sales. Old designs are often reproduced, and manufacturers like Johnsonville and Spode offer new versions of old favorites. Reproductions allow for everyday use. Antique dishware may be too valuable for daily use and may contain lead or other toxic materials.
Identifying old plates demands a lot of research and education. You cannot always rely on online sellers. An antique dish ought to be at least 100 years old, but items on, say, eBay are often listed as "antique" or "rare" without being so. A true antique or other valuable item will be offered with a detailed product description including manufacturer, date, pattern, country of origin and condition. A real expert will tell you why the item is rare or valuable.
Very old or unique pieces can be very expensive. British Antique Roadshow once featured a large platter that was valued at 100,000 pounds. Face it, plates break. If a high end or special commission piece has lasted 200 years, it's going to be valuable for that reason alone. The chances of finding such a treasure at a yard sale are extremely low.
If a current producer suggests that a "collectible" plate will increase in value, do not believe it. No one can predict the future.
The easiest way to learn the value of any antique is to take it to an appraiser. If you take it to a dealer, remember that they will offer you less than an item's appraised value, because a dealer must consider overhead, marketability, and profit. However, a professional appraisal is very expensive and is used for more valuable pieces. That being said, a known or trusted dealer can be very informative.
If you want to research the item yourself, you can attempt to describe the pattern and backstamp on Google Images, or find information online at sites like Replacements LTD or Kovels.
- Backstamps appear on the bottom of a plate. In general, they were pressed into the surface of pieces made before 1899, so printed stamps mean the dish was made after 1900. Older backstamps are ususally smaller than newer versions.
- A date may indicate when a pattern was introduced, not when the specific item was manufactured.
- The word "trademark" on an English dish indicates it was made from 1855 on. "LTD" was added to English company names beginning in 1886.
- If there is no country of origin stated, the plate was probably made before 1891, when the McKinley Tariff Act mandated such information on commercially imported dishware. But this rule of thumb would not apply if your great-grandmother brought a plate to the US from the old country, wrapped up in a quilt.
- Slight changes in the design of a backstamp can help date an item. A company may change the size or the design of a backstamp. For example, Meissen's slight alterations of the shape of its crossed swords over the years can give you a rough estimate of age.
From the 16th to the 18th century, the custom of dining grew more and more elaborate. While 16th century diners shared plates, the French court introduced the concept of separate plates. By the mid 19th century, dining à la russe came into vogue. The Russian style meant that individual plated foods were delivered to each guest.
A wide variety of plates emerged to fit the consumption-oriented Victorians including special plates for lunch, tea, fish, bread, salads, cheeses, and desserts. You can generally identify the type of plate by size. Fish plates usually feature a picture of a fish. Oyster plates have a circle of indentations to hold oysters.
A charger, or service plate, is a decorative placeholder and is 11 - 14 inches in diameter.
Dinner plate: 10 - 11"
Luncheon plate: 9 - 9 1/2"
Salad plate: 8 - 8 1/2"
Bread plate: 6 - 7"
Fish plate: 8 - 9"
Dessert plate: 7 1/4 - 8 1/2"
Cheese plate: 7 1/4"
Tea plates: 7 - 7 1/2"
Transferware: China for the Middle Class
Transferware was introduced in the mid 1700s and increased in popularity during the Victoria era. Ink transferred from a copper plate onto damp tissue paper was applied to fired china. The piece was fired again at a relatively low temperature to fix the design, then fired a third time at a higher temperature. The inexpensive mass-produced china became popular with the growing middle class.
Designs were often copies of etchings, and included romantic scenes from the English countryside, quaint town scenes, or views of Italy, India, or China.
Other design motifs included portraits of historical figures, exotic animals, flowers, and scenes from stories or literature. After the War of 1812, English dishware makers began to produce items for the US market that included scenes from well-known American places, natural landmarks, significant buildings, and railroads.
As scenic designs grew in popularity, many souvenirs were offered to tourists. In the days before everyone had a camera, people would purchase images from their travels on plates. World's Fair plates have been highly collectible ever since London's Great Exhibition in 1856. Souvenir plates can be pretty transferware, or cheaply produced so-ugly-they're-cute.
Popular 20th Century Dishware
Fiesta was introduced by Homer Laughlin China Company in 1936 in red, blue, light green, canary yellow, and ivory. Other colors were added in subsequent years, including turquoise, rose, gray, antique gold, and several other shades of green. The line was discontinued in 1973. The plain, brightly colored dishware became hugely collectible and was reintroduced in 1986.
Depression Glass was a type of glass dishware that gained popularity in the 1920s. New manufacturing techniques and materials allowed the production of clear glass plates, bowls, etc. Popular colors included pink green, and gold.
Corelle was introduced in 1970. The light, thin plates, bowls, and cups stored well and stood up to heavy use. Bu laminating three layers of tempered glass, Corning was able to offer a family-friendly product.
Noritake was opened in 1904 by the Morimura Brothers producing products to appeal to Americans in both high-end and budget markets. After World War II , they marketed under the name "Rose China" to avoid negative feelings toward Japan in the postwar years. By 1953, the name Noritake was back, with a new backstamp (the letter "N" inside a wreath), and is today one of the largest producers of dinnerware in the world.
Flow Blue is a highly collectible china that was first produced by accident. When the cobalt color ran during firing, it created a smudged appearance. At first deemed a failure, the china was shipped to the United States where it caught on in a big way. The production of Flow Blue ceased during World War I due to shortages of the materials needed. Original pieces can be quite expensive. Many fakes were produced during the collecting craze of the late 20th century.
Blue Willow has been a popular transferware design since the late 1700s, being reproduced with variations ever since. Blue Willow is the quintessential story plate, illustrating the tragic tale of two lovers. Elements of the design include a slanted tree, a pagoda, a boat, and two doves at the top. The same design produced in other colors (cranberry or brown) is commonly known as Willow Ware.
Satisfaction When You Can't Afford the Best
Falling in love with an expensive brand of dishware may make you swoon in secret, but you can duplicate the style for less. Royal Copenhagen's Blue Fluted dishware has been produced since 1775. Its clean, classic look has been copied ever since. Above you can see the real thing on display. Below, you can see Lipper and Man's Blue Fjord, which can be found at one third the price of the original.
Care and Storage of Vintage Dishware
- If your favorite plates are recent reproductions of favorite vintage dishware, you can clean them in the dishwasher, but if your dishware is old it's best to avoid using the dishwasher.
- Clean old dishware in warm water using a mild detergent and a soft cloth. Line the sink with a dishtowel to avoid breakage. Rinse with warm water. Sudden changes in water temperature can lead to crazing (a lot of tiny cracks).
- Dry with a soft cloth.
- Store older dishware that is not on display in padded containers. Place cushioning material between plates.
- Do not use vintage dishware in a microwave.
For Further Reading
There are many books that can help you learn about vintage and antique dishware. Some feature the products of one significant company while others present a more sweeping look at a variety of china. Older books can be helpful as the information does not change over time. Price guides reflect retail pricing. Older price guides will not reflect current values.
Miller's Pottery and Porcelain Marks by Gordon Lang
Kovel's New Dictionary of Marks: Pottery and Porcelain From 1850 to the Present by Ralph and Terry Kovel
Pictorial Guide to Pottery and Porcelain Marks by Chad Lage
Lehner's Encyclopedia of US Marks on Pottery, Porcelain, and Clay by Lois Lehner
Encyclopedia Of British Pottery and Porcelain Marks by Geoffrey A. Godden
Dinnerware of the 20th Century The Top 500 Patterns by Harry L. Rinker
Collector's Encyclopedia of American Dinnerware by Jo Cunningham
Dishes by Shax Riegler and Robert Bean
Collector's Encyclopedia of Limoges by Mary Frank Gaston
Spode and Copeland: Over Two Hundred Years of Fine China and Porcelain by Schiffer Books for Collectors
Gaston's Flow Blue China by Mary Gaston
Questions & Answers
Question: I have eight pieces of a scalloped heavy gilded rose pattern. Back has small round indent with number next to it. I can't find this mark anywhere. Do you have any suggestions?
Answer: If you are beginning to learn about maker's marks on dishware, there is a lot to learn, and this may take some time. First and simplest is to describe the mark on Google images and hope that something comes up. You may be led to sites that feature lots of marks, or backstamps.
You can also use a book for research. There are quite a few out there, available at your local library or you can buy one used. Even an older book will work as you are not looking for a value. Older books show outdated values, but the marks will be informative.
Some books that may help you:
"Pictorial Guide to Pottery and Porcelain Marks" by Chad Lage is nice because instead of just line drawings, images depict the actual dishware and what the mark looks like on the dishware.
"Kovel's New Dictionary of Marks Pottery and Porcelain 1850 - Present" by Ralph Kovel.
"Miller's Antique Marks" by Judith Miller
Question: I have a dinner set of white "milk glass" that belonged to my grandmother. I remember her having these in her dining room when I was a child in the 1960s and I'm guessing they are pre-1950. They have the Federal Glass "F" in a shield with the words "Heat (above the shield) & Proof (below the shield)". I am now trying to downsize; are these of any value or should I just donate them to a local charity?
Answer: The term "milk glass" became popular during the Victorian era when the pretty white glass was used as a stand-in for porcelain. While it fell out of favor around the time of the Great Depression, it came back into vogue after World War 2. There is a lot of it around. You can buy it for next to nothing at thrift shops. Some pieces are more valuable than others like old, rare items that may be worth $100.00. Cake stands are a hot commodity as well.
It is up to you whether to donate or sell your milk glass. Downsizing and selling can be fun, is a lot of work, and can earn you some money. But selling online demands work. You must list, describe, and photograph each item. You need to price so that it will sell. Then you need to check often to stay on top of sales, then package and mail the things that you sell. If you wish to enter such a project, then go for it.
Look around online and see the kinds of prices people are asking. Follow some auction sales to see what similar items sell for and decide if the work is worthwhile. You could also check around local antique malls or shops to see if a dealer is interested. Make sure that you take some photos with you if you do this.
The question is - how much is this work worth to you? If you are downsizing because you want to move, the work of selling may just cause you more aggravation.
Question: I have various blue willow pieces to include serving dishes with lids. They are stamped on the back with blue willow, Allerton, made in England. Any idea of their worth?
Answer: Blue Willow is a pattern that has been in constant production for a long time. The image tells the tale of Chinese sweethearts and has been adapted in various forms by many companies.
Charles Allerton and Sons produced transferware in England from 1859 - 1942. Before you try to learn the value of your pieces, you should find out when it was produced. Age and condition mean a lot. I have seen Blue Willow by Allerton for sale for a wide variety of prices. Older, rarer pieces will be more valuable.
A maker's mark indicated who produced the dishware. Most manufacturers slightly changed their marks over time. You can find a chart of Allerton marks and the changes they made at an online site called The Potteries.org. There you can get a general idea of the age of your pieces. Then you can easier learn the value.
Once you know the age of your blue Willow, you can scan online auction sites for value. Ignore the highest option. You can also check out price guides on Kovels, Replacements, or Worthpoint.
Question: I have a floral plate measuring approx 23 cm across with no indication of place or company of origin except for the number '2732' hand painted in green with a small upside-down Y and dot underneath. Please advise where this plate may be from?
Answer: You can learn more about your dishware by researching it yourself. Is it pottery or porcelain? Gently tap on the edge of the plate with your fingernail. Porcelain will produce a "ting" sound while pottery sounds like a quiet "thud."
When a piece of dishware has no maker's mark, the numbers may indicate the person who painted it (as piece work) or the item's pattern.
Try to find something similar on Google images. Describe the plate in as simple terms as possible. State shape, size, main color, pattern, and trim on the rim. As it is floral, state the type of flower in your description.
You can check out antique porcelain information with a book. Try Millers Porcelain Antiques Checklist by Paul Davidson or another like it. You can also take the plate to a dealer who specializes in old dishware. Tell them that you don't want to sell, just help with information. Expect to pay a fee but maybe not as much as with an official appraiser. Appraisals can be quite pricey.
Question: I have a 98 piece set of Hutschenreuther china that was a custom designed, one-of-a-kind pattern. My understanding is that it was commissioned in the 30s by a private party. Is a one-off, custom design more valuable than other sets? I'm having a very hard time finding experts in fine china and I don't want to underestimate the value of the set. Any suggestions for how to it evaluated?
Answer: If you think that your china is valuable, it would make sense to have it appraised by a professional. Contact your insurance agent for a recommendation. You can also look at the site for the American Society of Appraisers and find someone who specializes in china in your area.
Question: I have a platter with a windmill and sailboat, with a stamp of Sakakibara Japan. Is it worth anything? In wonderful shape. Has been sitting in my cupboard for years.
Answer: When you are searching for information on dishware, you should include several things in your description. Include color and backstamp information. Does the marking on the back show the word "ocean" over a crown with a central cross? If so, that is a very pretty piece.
You can valuate your platter on several sites. Try Kovels, Replacements, or Worthpoint. You can also sold prices on ebay.
Remember that European dishware that feature European scenes like windmills will be more expensive than those made in Asia. Windmill patterns do not seem as popular as they once were. Even plates with windmill patters made by Delft and Royal Copenhagen are not as expensive as other patterns.
Question: I have some china plates and platters without a stamped back mark but have the words "New Castle China". They are off-white with a green color and gold rim/gold design in the pattern. Is there a way to know when they were made?
Answer: Of course I can not tell you for sure what you have. I can not see it or see what is under the plate. But a company called Shenango New Castle produced china for hotels, restaurants, and institutions beginning in 1901 in Pennsylvania.
The marks on the undersides of the china vary. Some feature a sitting Indian while other show the words "New Castle China" but also have the word Shenango above. If that word appears and they look like restaurant plates, you may want to take a look on Google images to see if that is what you have.
Question: What are Fostoria dishes?
Answer: Fostoria glassware was produced in the US, first at Fostoria Ohio in the late 1800s. The company moved to Virginia and produced glassware there from 1915 until the late 1980s. In the 1920s Fostoria offered colored glass including green, amber and blue, and began to advertise in popular women's magazines.
For more information, look for "Fostoria: Serving the American Table 1887-1986" by Leslie Pina or "Fostoria: An Identification and Value Guide of Pressed, Blown & Hand Molded Shapes" by Ann Kerr. These are older books that you can find for a low price. Of course, current values will not be available in an older book.
Wash your Fostoria glassware by hand. Older dishware and glassware should not be cleaned in a dishwasher.
Question: I have an old pitcher with a P21 mark on the bottom. Do you know what this is?
Answer: When you are trying to understand a piece of pottery or dishware, you need to be more specific in your search query. That pitcher may be made of pewter, silver, pottery, or porcelain. So mention that detail in your search. If you want to find a book on the topic, you will notice that there are informative books out there on many old products.
If you want to try a Google image search (or indeed any search), you also need to mention the size, color, significant details, and decorations. Also, check to see if there is any other information on the bottom of the pitcher. Marks can include the producer's name or an image that represents the manufacturer. Also, marks change over the years so that can help you pinpoint when the product was made.
You can find information on maker's marks (or backstamps) in several books:
"Pictorial Guide to Pottery and Porcelain Marks" by Chad Large
"Kovel's New Dictionary of Marks - Pottery and Porcelain 1850 - Present" by Ralph Kovel
"Kovel's Dictionary of Marks Pottery and Porcelain 1650 - 1850" by Ralph and Terry Kovel.
Remember that an older book will not reflect current values but will help you identify your piece. You can research prices at Kovel's online, Replacements online, or look at sold prices in online auction sites.
Question: I have a set of plates, with serving pieces, of the pattern “Fibre” made by Globe Pottery, Cambridge England. Can you give me an idea of their worth?
Answer: Globe Pottery Cobridge produced the pattern called Fibre between 1914 and 1934. The mark includes an orb with vertical and horizontal lines with a banner that says Globe Pottery. The orb is topped by a crown which is topped by the pattern name, in this case, Fibre.
You can find the current value at Kovels, Replacements, or Worthpoint online. You need to be signed into these sites to find actual value. Remember that the value means how much an item will cost you. It does not guarantee that you will get that amount if you choose to sell it. If you sell to a dealer or at a consignment shop, remember that the seller must make overhead and profit. If you sell on a site like eBay, you take your chances that someone out there is willing to pay the price that you ask.
Question: I have an oval dish measuring 12.5" W x 9.5" H. It is stamped "Sachco" on the back with no other information. It is a Rainbow Trout themed dish. I have found very little about Sachco online. If you could help it would be most appreciated. Do you have any idea of how old it is and the value?
Answer: Sachco made low end dishware including advertising plates and plain plates. I don't know much about the company but their products can occasionally be found online for between $7.00 - 210.00. The plate that I saw advertised Goldsteins the Dependable Store for Women in Altoona Pennsylvania. I spotted ads for the store (with the motto) in the Altoona Mirror dated 1912.
Question: What does a “spoon holder” bowl look like?
Answer: There are a number of products that were made to hold spoons. Today we think of a spoon holder as a shallow bowl with a short extension that supports the spoons handle. In the past, jars were sold as spoon holders. Many such jars were Depression Glass. They resemble a wide drinking glass or a wide-mouthed vase with a decorative edge.
Victorian and Edwardian spoon holder bowls were sugar bowls that offered a place to hold one or more spoons. One version features a bowl made of glass or silver with a handle from which a spoon is suspended. Another version is a sugar bowl with a metal band near the top with little hooks. Some of these types could hold many spoons.
Question: I have a 5pc pottery tea set that I cannot identify. The only markings are by hand, and they read "Italy" on the bottom. The glazing doesn't go all the way to the bottom either, and the bottom where it rests on the table is rough. It has a green leaf pattern, much like a vine, with white flowers, 5 petals, and a yellow center. The teapot is one of the tall styles, with a lid, and it has the matching creamer w/ lid and sugar bowl. Same markings on them all, but definitely done by hand. Any ideas?
Answer: If the pot is tall, it is probably a coffee pot. Teapots are rounded and short, while coffee pots are more narrow and taller than teapots. Some tall ceramic or pottery pots were made for chocolate. The chocolate pots have short spouts near the top and are a bit shorter than coffee pots.
Real Italian pottery usually shows an unglazed bottom, usually of a terra cotta color. You can see brush strokes in authentic pieces.
To identify your set, try one of these sources:
"Italian Pottery Marks From Cantagalli to Fornasetti" by Walter and Karen Del Pellegrino.
You can also look at the Kovel's or Miller's book suggested in the article.
Question: I have some old Japanese or Chinese plates. Can you tell me what era this may be from?
Answer: Before you try to identify your plates you should find out if they are Chinese or Japanese. Both countries have a long tradition of creating beautiful ceramics. They are not the same.
Look online at how to tell the difference. In general, Japanese is simple and slightly curvy with more spaces. Chinese characters are blocky and dense. However, before the 20th century the characters were the same.
Once you discover if your plates are Japanese or Chinese, you can educate yourself with a book:
How to Identify Old Chinese Porcelain by Mrs. Willoughby Hodgson
The Handbook of Marks on Chinese Ceramics by Gerald Davidson
The Japanese Pottery Handbook by Penny Simpson
Inside Japanese Ceramics - Primer of Materials, Techniques, and Traditions by Richard L. Wilson
Learning about what you have can take time and patience. That is why professional appraisers command such high fees.
Question: I have "The Letter" by Barry Leighton-Jones. Its plate number is 109A. Does it have any value?
Answer: Barry Leighton-Jones was born in London, England, in 1932, and died in 2011. In 1985, he was commissioned by the estate of the famous clown Emmet Kelly to create images based on Kelly. Of course, a signed, numbered lithograph is more valuable than a print. However, there is a glut of Leighton-Jones artwork on the market which decreases the value.
I have seen some auction estimates of between $100 and $150.00. Values on eBay are all over the place. EBTH recently sold a Leighton-Jones lithograph of "The Letter" for $20.00.
Question: What 18th-century manufacturer of pottery went by the name R & W?
Answer: Learn about pottery marks by consulting a book on the subject. You can also find some information at online sites that specialize in pottery marks. Robinson and Wood used the initials in their products from 1832 - 1836. Hanley is an area in Staffordshire, England, an